New York marijuana: What to know about pot-pricing cliffs, banking wars and drug dealers
NJ Weedman sold marijuana outside the statehouse in Trenton ahead of the possible vote on legalization. The vote ultimately got canceled. Asbury Park Press
Based on extrapolation of illegal street sales, the New York marijuana market is between $1.7 billion and $3.5 billion, a study determined.
- A state study says street dealers charge between $270 and $340 per ounce of marijuana.
- In Colorado, for instance, the average price of marijuana bud dipped to $864 per pound last year
- One of the ongoing efforts involves granting the cannabis industry full access to banking services
New York’s recreational marijuana battle sits on the front line of a generational war over American cannabis laws. As debate heats up, USA TODAY Network New York is compiling answers to key questions about legalized cannabis.
As New York considers legalizing marijuana for recreational use, it faces a raft or problems that includes mismanaged marijuana harvests, pot-pricing cliffs and banking challenges.
From overzealous marijuana producers collapsing prices to banks fearing federal government crackdowns on pot business, the legal cannabis marketplace in states across the country has faced severe growing pains.
The Yonkers police said they discovered a marijuana grow house during what was initially an investigation into a motor vehicle accident. (Photo: Yonkers Police Department)
Concerns about legal marijuana’s financial regulation have some lawmakers, including Gov. Andrew Cuomo in New York, pushing reforms to keep pace with one of the fastest-growing segments of the American economy.
Some cited how U.S. medical and recreational marijuana sales are expected to reach tens of billions of dollars in coming years, despite fiscal hurdles driving some cannabis players into Canada’s legal marijuana investment rush.
What follows is an analysis of New York’s cannabis economics based on government data and the USA TODAY Network’s ongoing investigation of the issue.
Authorities in New York looked to street drug dealers for guidance on pricing recreational marijuana as part of the push towards legalization.
In a state-sanctioned study of the issue, officials based fiscal estimates for legal marijuana, in part, on reviews of illegal pot sales in New York, where dealers charged about $270 per ounce for medium quality strains and $340 per ounce for high quality.
Further, New Yorkers buy about 6.5 to 10.2 million ounces per year, which means the state’s marijuana market is between $1.7 billion and $3.5 billion, the study asserted.
After accounting for potential markups, the drug dealers’ pot prices proved key to Cuomo’s plan to collect about $300 million in tax revenue per year if marijuana is legalized.
The pot study, however, also broadly conceded other states already permitting legal weed have struggled with pricing volatility, noting New York should set prices accordingly to limit risks.
Yet the gritty details in states like Colorado and Oregon underscored pitfalls of legal marijuana economics, such as drastic price cuts threatening legal weed businesses, missed tax collection estimates and thriving black markets, according to USA TODAY Network.
Oversupply and demand
Experts described legal marijuana pricing stumbles as an ongoing attempt to define a historically shadowy marketplace.
In Colorado, for instance, the average price of marijuana bud dipped to $864 per pound last year, having fallen from a peak of about $2,000 in 2015. It dropped as the highly competitive initial rush to sell legal weed overestimated demand and misjudged entrenched street dealers, USA TODAY network reported.
“Retail marijuana is a relatively new, maturing market with a lot of early entrants and resultant over-production,” said Steve Ackerman, who owns a Colorado dispensary, Organic Alternatives.
“Downward pressure on prices will drive the less efficient players out of the market and prices will stabilize,” he added.
Yet while prices dropped and endangered some businesses, marijuana tax collections steadily climbed in Colorado despite missing early estimates. The annual total for taxes, licenses and fees related to legal marijuana hit about $267 million last year from $68 million in 2014, Colorado records show.
In Oregon, a similar over-production pricing curve helped destabilize the fledgling industry. Regulators last year temporary halted new marijuana business applications amid outcries over unstable prices, illegal sales to minors under 21 and legal pot being smuggled onto the black market.
In New York, Cuomo’s cannabis legislation would leave recreational pot pricing up to retailers, but it influences them through taxes and business licensing tied to government regulation of the cannabis industry from seed to sale.
Medical marijuana lessons
New York’s first-hand legal marijuana experience is limited to its medical cannabis program, which struggled for years to attract and retain patients in part due to high prices.
One reason is insurance companies largely refused to cover medical marijuana, citing federal prohibitions and leaving some to pay hundreds of dollars per month for cannabis-based drugs to treat serious illnesses like cancer and epilepsy.
The situation got so bad that Cuomo directed regulators to formally remind health insurers of their obligations under state law.
A public notice in 2017 explained insurers cannot deny coverage because a doctor may provide medical marijuana certification during an otherwise covered office visit, removing some cost barriers.
But patients still pay out-of-pocket for the drugs that are illegal under federal law, which makes it unaffordable for some as prices reflect the costly production involved in meeting medical quality standards.
Reforms that expanded the list of eligible illnesses, including chronic pain, and medical professionals allowed to certify users, however, have grown the patient pool to about 100,000.
Cuomo has also urged banks and credit unions to accept medical marijuana companies and hemp growers dealing in the non-psychoactive cannabis cousin.
He vowed last year that state financial regulators wouldn’t punish anyone involved in the financial deals, despite the threat of federal interference.
“As the federal government continues to sow discord surrounding the medical marijuana and industrial hemp businesses, New York has made significant progress in creating a supportive economic development and regulatory landscape for these companies,” Cuomo said.
Marijuana legalization advocates across the country focused on the banking issue while pushing reforms during last year’s elections, which saw several more states allow medical or recreational use of the drug, USA TODAY Network reported.
One of the ongoing efforts involves granting the cannabis industry full access to banking services, which remain partly out of reach because many banks are wary of running afoul of money-laundering laws or dealing with the increased red tape required for documenting transactions with marijuana-related businesses.
As a result, cannabis sales remain mostly cash deals, raising safety and logistical concerns, a concern that is part of ongoing debates over various marijuana legislation in Washington, D.C.
Meanwhile, New York’s acting Department of Financial Services Superintendent Linda Lacewell recently joined 23 other state financial regulators in pushing federal reforms to fix medical and recreational marijuana banking flaws, according to an April 15 letter to Congress, first reported by Forbes.
“It is incumbent on Congress to resolve the conflict between state cannabis programs and federal statutes that effectively create unnecessary risk for banks seeking to operate in this space,” the letter states.
“The looming threat of civil actions, forfeiture of assets, reputational risk, and criminal penalties is not conducive to a legal, regulated marketplace.”New York state officials turned to illegal pot street sellers to gauge what it should charge for recreational pot.
How Much Does New York Marijuana Cost?
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How much does marijuana cost per gram, eight and ounce in New York.
There’s high and medium quality marijuana sold in New York, with medium quality being the most popular/common.
A gram of high quality marijuana will cost you around $20 while medium will cost around $10.
An eighth of high quality marijuana will cost you around $50 while medium will cost around $40-50.
An ounce of high quality marijuana can vary a lot, from $250-$375. Medium will cost around $250-$300.
The average price of marijuana in New York is around $10 per gram, $40 per eighth, and $300 per ounce for average quality, either Mexican or homegrown. Higher quality typically costs around $15 to $20 per gram, $60 per eighth and $400 or a little more per ounce. Top quality such as Hawaiian can cost as much as $30 per gram.
The prices for Marijuana can vary based on quality and also location. The following prices reflect medium quality of the product in New York state. The current price of a Gram of marijuana is $20. The current price of a eighth of marijuana is $45. The price of an ounce of marijuana is $240.How much does marijuana cost per gram, eight and ounce in New York. ]]>