How does hitting a dab cart feel like
I recommend full spectrum carts if you’re looking for a better experience. Distillate by it’s nature has a bunch of stuff stripped out, then terps added back for flavor. Full spectrum is just squished bud (mostly).
To answer your question, I do about an 8-12 second draw and don’t really hold it, just do an extra sharp inhalation at the end to make sure I’ve opened up my lungs. It’s generally accepted that your lungs are only going to absorb what they get while inhaling, and holding your breath doesn’t do anything extra. I don’t know where I sit on that debate, but never hold more than about a second. Holding longer has no effect for me.
Hit that thing as hard as you can.
Totally agree on the no need to hold.
Think about what a “cart” is? A ultra-cheap disposable vaporizer with who knows what materials used in its construction. There is no cart on earth that does not taste like shit, at least to taste-chasers like me. Even my own oil when put in a premium cart tastes metallic no doubt from the cheap-ass atomizers in the carts. Combine this with the additional sin that most people use the cheapest possible batteries — gas station $10 ones — and you have a recipe for nastiness. :vomit:
I use carts at home ONLY with water, and when mobile and in stealth mode I use a high-end battery (PCKT and SILO).
Now, there are carts, and the contents of carts. This is the problem. Fakes everywhere, oil quality varies greatly across producers, and it is difficult to know in advance how your oil was made and what is in it. Even legit shops have suffered from lab inconsistency.
Most high-end carts nowadays are filled with “distillate” which means all the components were removed with terps and cannabinoids put back in (not necessarily the SAME ones extracted in that run, and all not necessarily put back in).
There is a cost of purity. Take a near 100% THC cart, ad a couple drops of terps (tast) to it, and the potency is less by definition. It’s why exceptionally strong carts (90’ish%) tast blah. not much in them but THC.
I’m not a pain patient — well, at least physical pain — but I do believe I’ve learned from others that if pain management is your goal, there are many more knobs to learn how to turn than “THC” ?
I am sure of one thing. Vaping is NOT good for you. It doesn’t necessarily have to be horribly BAD for you, it certainly is not good for a pair of lungs, especially the way most people do carts. To take a deep lungful of HOT and DRY air, damages your lungs (one of the big damaging aspects of cigarette smoking was filtered cigarettes — users started taking deeper bigger hits and burned their lungs leaving so much scar tissue. This is before any chemicals are considered. My suspicion is convection vapes are even worse since it is the air itself that must be made hot. BTW, in this respect, putting ice water in your dab rig, the worst fucking thing you can do. Removes so much moisture from your lungs making them ripe for irritation and infection.
My advice is do NOT over-inhale a cart. Do not take a seriously bigger hit than you can handle. And if you do decide to hammer carts, use lukewarm water.
Cool appreciate the responses. As much as I hate saying it though as far as dry herb vaporizers I’m still stuck between smoking kind of being better. I typically vape with bud at 390 at night and 365 during the day and use my mighty and it does help especially when I’m not in a lot of pain but my bad days smoking just seems to be on a different level of pain relief and much easier to fall asleep. Even vaping yeah I may get tired and doze off but not like smoking. I have not smoked in awhile but when I do i can be asleep within a few minutes if I want to be. Only difference is I typically take a 8 second draw some times 10 with mighty but smoking I don’t time. The first time I got high off a cbd strain some of you in Jersey May know what it is what I shock it’s barely a 1-1 but after about 3/4 of a joint I was good for 2 hours. Never reached that point again. Pain relief was solid too. I have been very high with vape but the smoke high seems more 50/50 but so far my highest vape high has not compared to my highest joint high. Edibles are always something as well but I prefer smoking/vaping.
This might sound dumb especially after the doctor told me it’s the wrong way to think and I should not be irresponsible like most people who consume weed but do u just keep pushing your limits wether it’s smoking or vaping? Or a single hit in a session and dose never increases. Just don’t get why a friend who had should surgery it kills there pain completely better then mine off the same strain and only difference is they will only smoke and take 3-4 hits at least at a time and hold every single one until the choke even though I know the holding in part is not good for you that long though she coughs fast and probably only holds for 5-6 seconds where I’m about 2.
I finally got a few cartridges from curaleaf in New Jersey that are 70% thc, and was just wondering how long you should take a hit from them and how long you hold it in. The employees are kind of helpless. Wasn’t sure if since it’s stronger then bud I usually take a 8-12 second draw off my mighty…
Stoners Share Their Worst Dabbing Stories
Even if you’re a daily stoner, the first time you dab can be a terrifying, coughing-fit filled experience if you’re not properly prepared. Though shatter may not be as “toxic and highly addictive” as some reports may lead you to believe, it can still really fuck you up.
If you’ve been getting high in 2016 but still haven’t heard of dabs, it refers to smoking super-pure THC concentrates that have been extracted from weed. Extraction is not the most simple process—it can actually be quite dangerous since it involves flammable chemicals—so it’s best left to the pros. The resulting product can vary, but most commonly it looks like a hard taffy.
Doing a dab is an experience that’s landed me immobilized in a vintage dentist chair at a cannabis industry party, and on another occasion, taught me that hallucinogens aren’t the only class of drugs that can make you trip. I reached out to stoners with varying degrees of experience with cannabis to find out what happened to them the fateful day they decided to dab for the first time.
I went to an outdoor wedding last summer, and after getting wasted off the open bar, I was looking around for something a bit stronger as the night went on. No one really had any drugs except for this one dude who looked fucking trashed and was hitting on all the bridesmaids. When I approached him, he immediately offered to give me a dab, so we went behind his car that was parked on the grass and he set up the rig on the hood. It was really dark, so I couldn’t see shit, and we were using our phones as flashlights. Of course when I went to hit it, I burned myself on the hot red metal part. I didn’t tell anyone because I didn’t want to seem like an idiot; I got a huge blister on my hand that lasted for a couple weeks. On top of that, even though I have been smoking weed for years, I coughed my brains out to the point where I had tears streaming down my face and was nauseous. Luckily it was dark out so no one could really tell. After, I was so fucking sweaty and all I wanted to do was curl up in a ball and sleep. It was way too intense. Honestly, some cocaine would have sufficed.
Not only does this stuff get you really high, but it is also strangely beautiful. Photo via Flickr user Andres Rodriguez
My first time I really dabbed was before the word dab existed, which was in 2005. Around two years ago, dabbing became a thing in Denver, Colorado. (I have been smoking weed for 14 years.) Before legalization, I tried an original, craft-cannabis strain of “budder.” Back then, we didn’t know how to dab because dabbing wasn’t a thing. We took a tiny drop on a little paperclip, used a lighter, and a pen cap.
But when dabbing became a big thing around 2014, I remember being at Movement Electronic Music Festival in Detroit. My friend from Dancesafe was there, and she was like, “Want to do a dab?” And we were like, “What’s that? Sure!” So we went with her, and she was like, “Let me pull out my rig.” We thought she was talking about needles, so we were really freaked out. She pulled out the rig and a blowtorch, which was also really freaky. Like what is going on? Why does she have a blowtorch? We did the first dab, and we didn’t have any weed, so when she offered another dab, we were like, “sure, yeah,” because when you smoke weed you smoke so much, right? Two dabs will do you. We were so high for the rest of the day. I don’t think I did any other drugs at that festival.
A lot of people think that you should keep dabbing and dabbing because in the media they see people taking huge ones, but all you really need is a tiny dab, and two can sometimes be too much. People also think that just like regular cannabis you’re supposed to hold it in, but one of the tips I got working at Vapor Central [Lisa is currently co-manager at Hotbox Medi Lounge and is the founder of Budz Trading Zone, a cannabis-themed offshoot of Bunz Trading Zone] is that you should blow it out right away. Anytime I give anyone new to it a dab, I tell them not to hold it in. It’s 80 percent plus THC, so you don’t need to hold it in.
For some reason, two experiences mentioned in this article ended in a dentist chair. Coincidence? We think not. Photo by the author
I was at my friend’s house, and it was just a bunch of guys who smoke weed and do nothing. It was after school, and I used to go there basically every day, and I smoked some weed but not as much as they did—maybe once a week. So my one friend asked if I wanted to smoke a dab, and I was like, “Fuck it, whatever.” I was already super stoned on hash at that moment too, so I smoked it and then like obviously got destroyed and was half asleep. It was all really weird because we were watching How It’s Made, and I was seriously tripping. Ten minutes later, my mom called and said I had a dentist appointment in ten minutes I totally had forgot about.
I lived down the street from this guy’s house anyways, so she was there in five minutes to pick me up. She called being like, “I’m outside, you have the dentist, hurry up.” And I was like… fuck. So we went. She knew I was really fucked up, but my mom is pretty young so she didn’t care really. Then I just like sat in the chair while the dentist worked on my cavity and fell asleep for almost the whole time. The dentist probably knew my eyes were super red, but they gave me glasses. I don’t think they said anything; they barely even talked to me. I remember it was really awkward—I couldn’t even stay awake. I was like so fucking over it and never smoked dabs again. I legit fell asleep at the dentist’s; they like had to wake me up halfway through because I kept closing my mouth. It was so whack.
A wild brontosaurus dab rig appears. Photo via Flickr user Steven Schwartz
My friends and I went to Melanheadz, which was a vapor lounge that has since been busted, and I tried dabs and butter mixed. I went in, [the proprietor] set everything up, and instructed me on how to smoke it. While doing it, I pulled too hard like I was smoking a bong, but I didn’t know it was different. I ended up choking and not being able to clear my bowl. I was coughing so hard for literally like ten minutes. Even though I am a daily smoker (usually I smoke blunts and joints), the people inside were laughing at me saying I was a noob and shit. All I was thinking was that I didn’t give a fuck, I just wanted the coughing to stop, and at one point I barfed after the coughing stopped. When I was coughing I was telling myself, Never again, this isn’t worth it.
After I calmed down from the coughing, I felt like a potato. I sat in the backseat of my friend’s car while we just drove around, and it was so sick because I felt like I was the car. I was in tune with everything around me, and I got the munchies. I was so hungry I ate two Philly cheesesteaks, a McChicken, a fish filet, and large fries, and a drink. Then we went to the Scarborough Bluffs and my boys rolled a blunt, but I didn’t even feel like getting high for the whole rest of the day.
I’ve been smoking weed since I was 14 years old. I literally smoke every day before and after I do anything, but dabs fuck with me. I tried them for the first time last year (though I’ve known about them for years) and found out they just make me want to pass out. I was at my friend’s place, and with the experience I have, I didn’t really think anything of trying out a new way of smoking. I was wrong. After I took my first hit, I was coughing even though I never really do that after hitting anything. My head was fucking pounding, and it wouldn’t stop. In my mind, I was like like, What the fuck, I’m never smoking again. It makes me hate being high and question my life choices way more so than smoking in any other way—and I love weed. Anytime I hit a dab, just like that first time, it makes me question why I chose to smoke that day or that moment, I’m just like, I would rather have just not smoked today than to feel like this. I can handle a dab pen, but when it comes to doing actual dabs from a rig, yeah, I’d rather not. But sometimes I do it anyway.
Interviews have been edited for length and clarity.
Hint: Don't hold it in.